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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Apr 30, 2016 8:29:40 GMT
Admin: simple question - can OBD11 produce a complete listing of the adaptation channels in a control module (with their settings)? There are around 3,500 adaptation channels in my mk7 (highline) and I've counted upward of 4,500 in models like the Golf R that has 20 x control modules! If the process of creating admaps is possible, what file structure is used and can I download the file onto another computer (i.e. a windows based PC where I can parse the data into a more useable form)?
Thankyou
Don
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Post by OBDeleven on Apr 30, 2016 18:29:17 GMT
Admin: simple question - can OBD11 produce a complete listing of the adaptation channels in a control module (with their settings)? There are around 3,500 adaptation channels in my mk7 (highline) and I've counted upward of 4,500 in models like the Golf R that has 20 x control modules! If the process of creating admaps is possible, what file structure is used and can I download the file onto another computer (i.e. a windows based PC where I can parse the data into a more useable form)?
Thankyou
Don At this time it is not possible, but we have this function in our work plan.
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on May 1, 2016 0:10:43 GMT
^^^^^ Admin: Many thanks for the reply - I will await the admap facility with eager anticipation!! Don
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Post by AndyG on Jan 16, 2017 22:29:54 GMT
Hi.
I've just ordered my OBDEleven Pro.
Has there been any progress on the facility to scan and record individual or all controller settings? I like the idea of having a baseline record before making any changes.
Cheers - Andy
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Post by atlas123 on Mar 8, 2018 16:54:47 GMT
Is this still in the workplan?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2018 17:08:42 GMT
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Post by atlas123 on Mar 8, 2018 19:22:51 GMT
Atlas123 have you looked at your backup files, This has all the channels the current values and the Long Coding string Thank you for the response. I guess I'm asking a different but related question -- it would be nice if the backup file could have the option of including not just the current setting for each adaptation channel but all possible setting choices for each adaptation channel? So, for example, instead of telling me only that the "point_of_intervention" channel is set to "late," it'd be nice if the document could tell me the various options ("early"; "early (setting via menu)"; "late").
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2018 20:10:13 GMT
ok raise it in the request section but for me it would not be wanted simply put some adaptions have lots and lots of options it would make the file unfriendly for me.
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Mar 11, 2018 2:19:56 GMT
^^^ Hi Ron - I get the feeling from reading atlas123's post that we are a kindred spirit!! For me the problem with the back-up file is that it's designed to be read like a piece of text!
"nothing wrong with that" - I hear you thinking, and you are correct if all you want to do is simply find record. BUT (and there is always a but), the truth is that VW uses this data in their UDS modules in an entirely different way.
In VW's modules generally and in MBQ vehicles in particular, this information is in truth a relational database. When used as a relational database (as distinct from reading a flat text file), the information becomes far more understandable and the records become much more useful!
That other cable (name not identified)realized this fact some time ago and admaps have some elements of relational data base hierarchy. Certainly admaps are much easier to parse into database tools so that individual pieces of data are separated and readily identifiable (simple .CSV format is all that's needed). Admaps do have a way to go before they truly match the information heirachy that's embedded in UDS modules.
Yes, back-up files are better than nothing (when I first wrote my request, there were no back-up files), but only just better.
As for Altal123's specific request ( for a list of settings as well as a list of allowable options), having the structure of the file as a relational database will solve the problem that you have identified.
So Admin - how about creating true database for back-up files?
Don
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2018 9:40:34 GMT
Morning Don
To be clear I am not saying i don't understand or want the information but I like the format of the current backup file.
For me in relation database mode i want the current output as it (small and nicely structured)
i then want the relational tables (which contain all the valid values) which i would hope is how it is on the servers.
For me the point of a relational database is to reduce errors (because you can only select supported values) and size (Even simple active, not active answer means for every extract with say 50 values you are bring down 100 bits of text, but the lookup table would only have 2 rows) and i suspect the backup process would also slow down as there is much more data to get and transfer.
Its a personal thing but i also feel that OBD dev team have more important work to be getting on with and just giving us the mapping of tables would allow us to VLOOKUP or JOIN easily to give the desired output.
So not disagreeing with either of you and as I said to Atlas put in a request so it can be added to the list.
However with my IT Hat on I would also add I would want to be able to do as now (backup per control unit and like the cable company does a full scan of all the modules in one go. Oh and also can we please add in a user laguage description for each field which can be maintained like the long coding is and would be tied to user app language and help people read the output whilst allowing us all to use common coding.
I will stop now....
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