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Post by djvoic3 on Jun 9, 2016 19:12:23 GMT
Hey Guys. Is there a current guide on what to do to when one installs LED lights (ie:reverse,license plate, etc.) to a car that never had them thus eliminating the need for resistors?
Thanks.
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Jun 9, 2016 22:59:46 GMT
Hey Guys. Is there a current guide on what to do to when one installs LED lights (ie:reverse,license plate, etc.) to a car that never had them thus eliminating the need for resistors? Thanks. djvoic: Leuchte programming makes a distinction between incandescent lamps and LEDs! The adaptation channel that does this in a Leuchte-set is the "lasttyp" channel. Here is the list of permissible setting for the Lasttype channel
The actual voltage signal to the lamp changes depending on what setting is used (LEDs are current devices - not voltage devices): basically, the time period of the PWM square-wave doubles and the quantity of modulation varies with the Dimmwert setting. Here is a voltage trace that I took on a car with 43 allemeine LED setting and a 50% Dimmwert value showing the PWM attributes of the square wave:
The same voltage trace with an incandescent setting in the Lasttyp channel and a 50% Dimmwert value has a 10 msec square wave frequency and a 50/50 on/off period
So, in general, whilst it is sometimes possible to operate an LED with an incandescent setting, it's better to use an LED value when an LED is used to get the best performance from the lamp IMO (it's always better to be truthful - tell the BCM what type of lamp you have installed).
Don
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Post by mathmk7 on Oct 1, 2016 10:00:03 GMT
Is this work if I changed my bulbs for leds type with error free ?
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Oct 1, 2016 22:55:31 GMT
^^^^ mathmk7: As with all things in life - there can be no guarantee that there will never be any error free installations by using my advice (especially since there are so many sellers of dubious LED lamps on the net that claim that their products are compatible with mk7 vehicles! But in general, it makes sense that if you retro-fit an LED lamp into the car where previously there was an incandescent lamp, you will get better performance if you tell the Body Control Module (what ODB11 calls "Central Electrics") that there is no longer an incandescent lamp installed!
However, my suggestion won't make a bad, or cheap LED operate correctly on your car!
Don
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Post by marklaxton993 on Oct 3, 2016 2:20:45 GMT
Hi dom I have fitted led tail and brake lights also indicator and reverse all work OK I have dimm the taillights as you could not see the difference between brake and taillights Can you please tell me how to change the settings from incandescent to led bulbs in central electric Mark
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Oct 3, 2016 5:05:07 GMT
Hi Don. I have fitted led tail and brake lights also indicator and reverse all work OK I have dimm the taillights as you could not see the difference between brake and taillights Can you please tell me how to change the settings from incandescent to led bulbs in central electric Mark Mark: hello. So what you need to do is to first identify the "Leuchte-Set" for the lamp base that you have retrofitted LEDs using the table below "LEUCHTE_SET" name > FUNCTION - LOCATIONLeuchte16BLK SLB35BLK SL KC9 > Indicator rear left (inside) (LED rear lights) Leuchte17TFL R BLK SRB3TFL R BLK SR KC3 > Indicator rear right (inside) (LED rear lights) Leuchte18BLK HLA60 > Indicator rear left (outside) (taillights) Leuchte19BLK HRC31 > Indicator rear right (outside) (taillights) Leuchte20BR LA71 > Parking light / brake light, rear left (tail lights) Leuchte21BR RC8 > Parking light / brake light, rear right (tail lights) Leuchte22BR MA57 > Brake light, rear center (third stop light) Leuchte23SL HLC10 > Parking light, rear left inside (taillights) Leuchte24SL HRA65 > Parking light, rear right inside (taillights) Leuchte25KZL HA59 > License plate light Leuchte26NSL LA72 > Rear fog light Rear left inside (taillights) Leuchte27NSL RC6 > Stand lights behind both inside (LED taillights) Leuchte28RFL LC11 > Reversing light, rear left inside (taillights) Leuchte29RFL RA64 > Reversing light, rear right inside (taillights) Then for the Leuchte-set, you need to change the setting in the adaptation channel with the descriptor Lasttyp to an appropriate LED value from the table that I posted previously. Here's some examples - For the left outer brake light, the Leuchte-set is Leuchte20BR LA71 and an appropriate LED setting is 34 - LED Bremsleuchten. If this brake light is a combined brake/indicator,as for NAR models in USA, then the more appropriate setting is 35 kombinierte LED Blink-Bremsleuchten
- For the left turn signal, the Leuchte-set is Leuchte18BLK HLA60 and an appropriate LED setting is 38 - LED Blinkleuchten
- For the left parking light, the Leuchte-set is Leuchte23SL HLC10. There isn't a specific LED setting for this function, but many factory LED fittings use 34 - LED Bremsleuchten (also)
- Similarly for the reverse light, there isn't a specific setting. But you could try a general LED setting like 40 allgemeine LED
Don
PS: Of course you will need to enter the magic number 31347 before you attempt to make changes
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Post by marklaxton993 on Oct 3, 2016 16:31:50 GMT
Hi don change all of them settings thank you very much carnt see any difference but probably make the bulbs last longer Mark
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Post by Jamie on Feb 4, 2017 22:20:17 GMT
hey Don, I'very recently installed a set of LED fog lamp bulbs to replace my old set, mostly to match the temperature of my new headlights from ED,(golf R reps) however, I throw a fault and a warning shows for "check left & tight fog light!" on my dash, I'm not overly concerned with the fault as long as it's not shown in my MFI, however, farther scan also shows a fault for my side marker lamps. I'd ideally like to clear all the faults. mostly I'd like to make these light preform to the best of their ability, not knowing German is making things hard, not to mention I'm confused where to find the fog lamp channel... any help or clarification would be must appreciated!
-Jamie
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Feb 4, 2017 22:43:09 GMT
hey Don, I'very recently installed a set of LED fog lamp bulbs to replace my old set, mostly to match the temperature of my new headlights from ED,(golf R reps) however, I throw a fault and a warning shows for "check left & tight fog light!" on my dash, I'm not overly concerned with the fault as long as it's not shown in my MFI, however, farther scan also shows a fault for my side marker lamps. I'd ideally like to clear all the faults. mostly I'd like to make these light preform to the best of their ability, not knowing German is making things hard, not to mention I'm confused where to find the fog lamp channel... any help or clarification would be must appreciated! -Jamie Jamie: Hi . If your fog lights are wired as per the OEM standard, the 2 x Leuchte-sets for the front fogs will be: - Right side: Leuchte13NL RB5
- Left side: Leuchte12NL LB45
Once you have searched and found these Leuchte-sets, locate the adaptation channel with the title Lasttyp - the current value for this channel is likely to be 10 - allgemeine Scheinwerfer. Change the setting to 6 - LED Lichtmodul on both sides. Clear the trouble codes then switch-on the front fogs.
Don
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Post by yankarinrg on Aug 26, 2017 11:46:33 GMT
Hi Don. I have fitted led tail and brake lights also indicator and reverse all work OK I have dimm the taillights as you could not see the difference between brake and taillights Can you please tell me how to change the settings from incandescent to led bulbs in central electric Mark Mark: hello. So what you need to do is to first identify the "Leuchte-Set" for the lamp base that you have retrofitted LEDs using the table below "LEUCHTE_SET" name > FUNCTION - LOCATIONLeuchte16BLK SLB35BLK SL KC9 > Indicator rear left (inside) (LED rear lights) Leuchte17TFL R BLK SRB3TFL R BLK SR KC3 > Indicator rear right (inside) (LED rear lights) Leuchte18BLK HLA60 > Indicator rear left (outside) (taillights) Leuchte19BLK HRC31 > Indicator rear right (outside) (taillights) Leuchte20BR LA71 > Parking light / brake light, rear left (tail lights) Leuchte21BR RC8 > Parking light / brake light, rear right (tail lights) Leuchte22BR MA57 > Brake light, rear center (third stop light) Leuchte23SL HLC10 > Parking light, rear left inside (taillights) Leuchte24SL HRA65 > Parking light, rear right inside (taillights) Leuchte25KZL HA59 > License plate light Leuchte26NSL LA72 > Rear fog light Rear left inside (taillights) Leuchte27NSL RC6 > Stand lights behind both inside (LED taillights) Leuchte28RFL LC11 > Reversing light, rear left inside (taillights) Leuchte29RFL RA64 > Reversing light, rear right inside (taillights) Then for the Leuchte-set, you need to change the setting in the adaptation channel with the descriptor Lasttyp to an appropriate LED value from the table that I posted previously. Here's some examples - For the left outer brake light, the Leuchte-set is Leuchte20BR LA71 and an appropriate LED setting is 34 - LED Bremsleuchten. If this brake light is a combined brake/indicator,as for NAR models in USA, then the more appropriate setting is 35 kombinierte LED Blink-Bremsleuchten
- For the left turn signal, the Leuchte-set is Leuchte18BLK HLA60 and an appropriate LED setting is 38 - LED Blinkleuchten
- For the left parking light, the Leuchte-set is Leuchte23SL HLC10. There isn't a specific LED setting for this function, but many factory LED fittings use 34 - LED Bremsleuchten (also)
- Similarly for the reverse light, there isn't a specific setting. But you could try a general LED setting like 40 allgemeine LED
Don
PS: Of course you will need to enter the magic number 31347 before you attempt to make changesHello Don, what is the difference between " 33 - LED-Modul Blinkleuchten", " 35 - kombinierte LED Blink-Bremsleuchten" and " 38 - LED Blinkleuchten"? My car is a Skoda Fabia III: - Front turn indicators: from 21W halogen to 1,5W LED // Leuchte0,1 // one of the above 3 (?) - Low beams: from 55W halogen to 30W LED // Leuchte6,7 // 5 - LED Abblendlicht (?) - High beams: from 55W halogen to 30W LED // Leuchte8,9 // 6 - LED Lichtmodul (?) - Front fog lights: from 35W halogen to 30W LED // Leuchte12,13 // 6 - LED Lichtmodul (?) - Rear turn indicators: from 21W halogen to 2W LED // Leuchte18,19 // one of the above 3 (?) - Rear position/brake: from 21W halogen to 2W LED // Leuchte20,21 // 39 - LED Bremsleuchten (?) - Rear position: from 3W halogen to 1W LED // Leuchte23,24 // 39 - LED Bremsleuchten (?) - Rear fog: from from 21/5W halogen to 2W LED // Leuchte26 // 1. LED Tagfahrlichtmodul Versorgung (seems stock on MK7, Touran), 43. Allgemeine LED (seems stock on Passat, Tiguan 2), 32 - allgemeine LED bis 12W (seems stock on Octavia III) (?) - Reverse light: from 21W halogen to 2W LED // Leuchte28 // 37 - allgemeine LED bis 12W (?) - Interior light: from halogen to LED // Leuchte30 // 36 - LED Kleinleistung, 43 - allgemeine LED, 44 - LED Fußraum- oder -Innenleuchte
Which one is the best Lasttyp for each light, out of the (more or less right) proposed? And out of curiosity, what's the difference between the various instances of the same type of load, example: 40 - allgemeine LED and 43 - allgemeine LED? Which one should you choose if there are multiple loads with the same name but different number?
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Aug 29, 2017 8:36:50 GMT
Mark: hello. So what you need to do is to first identify the "Leuchte-Set" for the lamp base that you have retrofitted LEDs using the table below "LEUCHTE_SET" name > FUNCTION - LOCATIONLeuchte16BLK SLB35BLK SL KC9 > Indicator rear left (inside) (LED rear lights) Leuchte17TFL R BLK SRB3TFL R BLK SR KC3 > Indicator rear right (inside) (LED rear lights) Leuchte18BLK HLA60 > Indicator rear left (outside) (taillights) Leuchte19BLK HRC31 > Indicator rear right (outside) (taillights) Leuchte20BR LA71 > Parking light / brake light, rear left (tail lights) Leuchte21BR RC8 > Parking light / brake light, rear right (tail lights) Leuchte22BR MA57 > Brake light, rear center (third stop light) Leuchte23SL HLC10 > Parking light, rear left inside (taillights) Leuchte24SL HRA65 > Parking light, rear right inside (taillights) Leuchte25KZL HA59 > License plate light Leuchte26NSL LA72 > Rear fog light Rear left inside (taillights) Leuchte27NSL RC6 > Stand lights behind both inside (LED taillights) Leuchte28RFL LC11 > Reversing light, rear left inside (taillights) Leuchte29RFL RA64 > Reversing light, rear right inside (taillights) Then for the Leuchte-set, you need to change the setting in the adaptation channel with the descriptor Lasttyp to an appropriate LED value from the table that I posted previously. Here's some examples - For the left outer brake light, the Leuchte-set is Leuchte20BR LA71 and an appropriate LED setting is 34 - LED Bremsleuchten. If this brake light is a combined brake/indicator,as for NAR models in USA, then the more appropriate setting is 35 kombinierte LED Blink-Bremsleuchten
- For the left turn signal, the Leuchte-set is Leuchte18BLK HLA60 and an appropriate LED setting is 38 - LED Blinkleuchten
- For the left parking light, the Leuchte-set is Leuchte23SL HLC10. There isn't a specific LED setting for this function, but many factory LED fittings use 34 - LED Bremsleuchten (also)
- Similarly for the reverse light, there isn't a specific setting. But you could try a general LED setting like 40 allgemeine LED
Don
PS: Of course you will need to enter the magic number 31347 before you attempt to make changesHello Don, what is the difference between " 33 - LED-Modul Blinkleuchten", " 35 - kombinierte LED Blink-Bremsleuchten" and " 38 - LED Blinkleuchten"? My car is a Skoda Fabia III: - Front turn indicators: from 21W halogen to 1,5W LED // Leuchte0,1 // one of the above 3 (?) - Low beams: from 55W halogen to 30W LED // Leuchte6,7 // 5 - LED Abblendlicht (?) - High beams: from 55W halogen to 30W LED // Leuchte8,9 // 6 - LED Lichtmodul (?) - Front fog lights: from 35W halogen to 30W LED // Leuchte12,13 // 6 - LED Lichtmodul (?) - Rear turn indicators: from 21W halogen to 2W LED // Leuchte18,19 // one of the above 3 (?) - Rear position/brake: from 21W halogen to 2W LED // Leuchte20,21 // 39 - LED Bremsleuchten (?) - Rear position: from 3W halogen to 1W LED // Leuchte23,24 // 39 - LED Bremsleuchten (?) - Rear fog: from from 21/5W halogen to 2W LED // Leuchte26 // 1. LED Tagfahrlichtmodul Versorgung (seems stock on MK7, Touran), 43. Allgemeine LED (seems stock on Passat, Tiguan 2), 32 - allgemeine LED bis 12W (seems stock on Octavia III) (?) - Reverse light: from 21W halogen to 2W LED // Leuchte28 // 37 - allgemeine LED bis 12W (?) - Interior light: from halogen to LED // Leuchte30 // 36 - LED Kleinleistung, 43 - allgemeine LED, 44 - LED Fußraum- oder -Innenleuchte
Which one is the best Lasttyp for each light, out of the (more or less right) proposed? And out of curiosity, what's the difference between the various instances of the same type of load, example: 40 - allgemeine LED and 43 - allgemeine LED? Which one should you choose if there are multiple loads with the same name but different number? hmm........ there really isn't a definitive table of LED settings that would suit all different mk7 model versions in all the different markets in which the mk7 is sold. The lasttyp setting for LED fittings varies depending on what the lamp is required to do by the local lighting rules in the country. Here in Australia, we have the Australian Design Rules (ADR) and in the USA they use the Department of Transport (DoT) rules, and they fundamentally require the lights to do different things! For example, in Australia because we have separate orange rear turn signal lamps, the Brake-light has the Lasttype setting 34 - LED Bremsleuchten (because the outer tail light is just a brake-light and parkiing light). But on NAR (North American Region) models where the rear brake-light also acts as the turn signal, the standard Lasttype setting is 14 - kombinierte Blink- Bremsleuchten. Further up this page I posted a "signal trace" of the PWM waveform from one of the Leuchte pins on the Central electrics module. What happens when you choose different Lasttyp settings is that the frequency of the PWM signal is altered - but there are basically 2 frequencies: 200 Hz and 100 Hz. Within a lamp type (LEDs - for example), changing the Lasttyp setting seems to vary the "duty cycle" of the waveform for a particular Dimmwert setting. But I suspect that trying to discern the optimal Lasttyp setting for an aftermarket LED is futile, because the characteristics of the aftermarket lamp most likely won't be the same as a true-OEM LED (despite third party sellers claiming that their LEDs are OEM). The best that you will be able to achieve is to try a number of Lasttyp settings that appear to have the correct name and then pick the one that looks the best. Don
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Post by yankarinrg on Aug 30, 2017 1:55:17 GMT
Thanks for replying Don (p.s. I liked your reply but since I am very curious, I like to go deeper ) So, for rear turn indicators, I am definitely going for 38 - LED Blinkleuchten. Low beams should be 5 - LED Abblendlicht, 99%. From what I've seen, front fog lights should be 6 - LED Lichtmodul. Rear tail lights 39 - LED Bremsleuchten. Regarding High beams, reverse light and rear fog light, what do you advise me, Don? (the power of the LEDs is in the post above, if could be useful ) For interior lights, I've them set to 36 - LED Kleinleistung with Dimmwert 127 and look pretty good (they instantly light instead of gradually lighting) Another question I can't figure out alone even though I tested disabling all the functions: what is the difference between Leuchte2SL VLB22, Leuchte3SL VRB36 (Lasttyp 4 - LED Tagfahrlichtmodul Signal) and Leuchte4TFL LB43, Leuchte5 TFL RB6(Lasttyp 1 - LED Tagfahrlichtmodul Versorgung)? I thought 2 and 3 were parking lights and 4, 5 DRL but, after disabling all the function in 2, 3 (Nicht aktiv) and turning the rotary switch to " Parking lights", they were still working. So what's the difference? Thanks for instructing me!
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Aug 30, 2017 5:51:24 GMT
Thanks for replying Don (p.s. I liked your reply but since I am very curious, I like to go deeper ) So, for rear turn indicators, I am definitely going for 38 - LED Blinkleuchten. Low beams should be 5 - LED Abblendlicht, 99%. From what I've seen, front fog lights should be 6 - LED Lichtmodul. Rear tail lights 39 - LED Bremsleuchten. Regarding High beams, reverse light and rear fog light, what do you advise me, Don? (the power of the LEDs is in the post above, if could be useful ) For interior lights, I've them set to 36 - LED Kleinleistung with Dimmwert 127 and look pretty good (they instantly light instead of gradually lighting) Another question I can't figure out alone even though I tested disabling all the functions: what is the difference between Leuchte2SL VLB22, Leuchte3SL VRB36 (Lasttyp 4 - LED Tagfahrlichtmodul Signal) and Leuchte4TFL LB43, Leuchte5 TFL RB6(Lasttyp 1 - LED Tagfahrlichtmodul Versorgung)? I thought 2 and 3 were parking lights and 4, 5 DRL but, after disabling all the function in 2, 3 (Nicht aktiv) and turning the rotary switch to " Parking lights", they were still working. So what's the difference? Thanks for instructing me! rear fog - 1 - LED Tagfahrlichtmodul Versorgung reverse light - 45 allgemeine LED bis 6W interior lights - 44 LED Fußraum- oder -Innenleuchte High-beam- not sure (HIDs use 2 Shutter; Diagnosesensierung für "LED low", but this is for the shutter motors) "Leuchte2SL VLB22, Leuchte3SL VRB36 and Leuchte4TFL LB43, Leuchte5 TFL RB6" - clearly you don't have a mk7! I'm not familiar with these Leuchte-sets, but the naming convention that is used enforces a certain rule. For example, if you take Leuchte2SL VLB22, the "B22" refers to Pin #22 on the "B" socket on the Central electrics module (also called the BCM). So, get hold of a wiring diagram for your car (whatever model it is) and find out which lamp is connected to pin #22 on the "B" socket - easy fix! Don
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Post by yankarinrg on Sept 9, 2017 21:51:18 GMT
Some of my bulbs have arrived so I installed them: rear indicators and rear fog light. Changed the lasttyp but as soon as I turn on parking lights or low beam, an error comes: OBDeleven report:
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B12BE01 - Lampe für Schlusslicht links elektrischer Fehler (Sporadic electric fault for left taillight) sporadisch B12BF01 - Lampe für Schlusslicht rechts elektrischer Fehler (Sporadic electric fault for right taillight) sporadisch
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Any clue guys?
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Sept 9, 2017 23:15:52 GMT
Some of my bulbs have arrived so I installed them: rear indicators and rear fog light. Changed the lasttyp but as soon as I turn on parking lights or low beam, an error comes: OBDeleven report: ################### B12BE01 - Lampe für Schlusslicht links elektrischer Fehler (Sporadic electric fault for left taillight) sporadisch B12BF01 - Lampe für Schlusslicht rechts elektrischer Fehler (Sporadic electric fault for right taillight) sporadisch ################### Any clue guys? yankarinrg: As the old adage says "not all LEDs are created equal"! There are countless variations in the quality and the type of LEDs on the market these days -each with their own characteristics and their own responses to Pulse-Width-Modulation dimming (see my discussion on PWM above). Not much information in your post regarding your new LEDs (no offense intended). However, my guess (and it's purely a hunch) is that the new LEDs don't like to be driven at the PWM frequency that you have selected via your Lasttyp setting - for low illumination levels. When you switch to Parking-lights, what normally happens to the tails is that the dimmwert value in the Leucthe-set enforces low illumination. As a result, the LED sees a square-wave voltage signal that has lots of OFF time and little ON time. My hunch is that the new lamp is not seeing sufficient forward voltage across the LED junction to sustain the production of photons in these low illumination conditions (sorry about the techo-speak). If I'm correct (and I may not be correct), I suspect that occasionally your new LEDs actually extinguish under these circumstances. The central electric module is very intelligent - it monitors the electrical current in each of the mk7's 35 x exterior lamps. It sees that the LED momentary and occasional extinguishes and it flags the error messages that you have posted. So - what to do? Well, I don't believe that your problem is a wiring, or connection fault because the errors appear on both sides of your car. I suggest that you keep trying different Lasttyp setting in the hope that you can find a combination of PWM frequency and ON/OFF values that sustain forward voltage across the LED junction. Failing that, try increasing the dimmwert value for the Parking light leuchte command. Failing that, try using an incandescent lamp setting in the Lasttyp channel. Failing that and as a last resort, make your problem the problem of the person who sold you the LEDs! Suggest to the seller in a calm but forceful tone that his (her?) product is absolute sh#t! Don
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Post by yankarinrg on Sept 9, 2017 23:44:56 GMT
Hello Don, thanks again for the detailed study.
The LEDs I chose are OSRAM LEDriving PREMIUM. In the case of rear fog light, OSRAM LEDriving PREMIUM P21/5W. The type of load I set is "(43) - General LED with Open Load without Pulse-width modulation" The rear fog light adaptation channel's only non-zero Dimming value is "Dimming_AB_26" which is 127.
Tomorrow I'm going to test different Lasttypen and report back!
Thanks again Don!
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Post by yankarinrg on Sept 11, 2017 13:04:14 GMT
Don I fixed it: Leuchte26 controls this light only when the rear fog light is turned on. Leuchte 23 and 24 controls the light otherwise, and it was set to halogen, so had to set them to LED as well. I only have a small problem now: brake lights (Leuchte 20 and 21) in DRL have the same power as when I press the brake pedal (Dimming for DRL is 18, Dimming for Braking is 127). How is this? Here are the two licht configuration. Leuchte20:Leuchte21:Brake light is always on, even if I don't brake:When braking (no difference):S**t, is it possible the LED isn't dimmable?
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Sept 12, 2017 21:59:32 GMT
^^^^ bit confused about the numbering. Your brake lights appear to be Leuchte 20 and 21 from your table. Also, I've never heard of a lamp being controlled by more than one leuchte-set -can't happen! I'm suspicious about your LED, try different lasttyp settings on Leuchte 20 &21. Try lowering Dimmert EF value as well
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Post by yankarinrg on Sept 12, 2017 22:37:46 GMT
Regarding the lamp being controlled by multiple leuchte sets, maybe it's like this: the OEM bulb is a P21/4W, so Leuchte23 and 24 control the 4W filament, whilst Leuchte26 controls the 21W one. Can it be this way?
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Sept 12, 2017 23:11:53 GMT
^^^ yes that's exactly what happens with a multi filament incandescent lamp, but I hadn't thought that your fog light, or your Brake light was a multi filament lamp. In fact, the only multi filament lamp on a mk7 (and I assume on your Skoda) with incandescent fittings is the front DRL/Parking light lamps.
Don
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Post by yankarinrg on Sept 13, 2017 7:41:46 GMT
Thanks again for sharing your large knowledge Don. Having said that, I still need to solve the brake light problem if I don't want to lose the light as position, parking, and daytime running light. The original brake bulb is a P21W which is controlled by the BCM to output 18% of its power when not braking (nearly 4 W) and 100% when braking. Now, since I'm 99,9% sure the problem is due to the LED not being dimmable (asked OSRAM for confirmation), do you think it's possible to install a P21/5W LED (as for the one I have for rear foggy which works flawlessly, regarding the different power) instead of the P21W (socket aside) and have Leuchte20 and 21 control both filaments, one time the 5W through Lichtfunktion C,D,20,21 and E,20,21, and when braking, through Lichtfunktion A 20,21 the 21W?
Edit: Asked OSRAM and they confirmed it's a dimmable LED. So the thing is: is it possible the dimming of a LED isn't linear?
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Sept 14, 2017 5:50:58 GMT
yankarinrg: I'm not sure that I understand your question - particularly after your edit (sorry).
Why not try lowering the values in Dimmwert EF and Dimmwert CD to a very low number (say 5) and see what happens. If this does allow for adequate differentiation with the Brake light, then keep increasing the Dimmwert number until you get the correct illumination for DRL and Parking light.
Don
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Post by yankarinrg on Sept 14, 2017 21:58:02 GMT
Hey Don. Today I tried lowering Dimmwert EF and CD to 5 but the bulb still turned on completely. Then I tried to change Lasttyp from "34 - LED Bremsleuchten" to "43 - allgemeine LED" but the problem persisted. Later I changed the Lasttyp back to "13 - Bremsleuchten" and the brightness was right and matched the one of the other position lights. Of course, I got the warning, but at least it works.
Having said that, the bulb is actually dimmable and works, but only with a halogen Lasttyp. Leuchte20 and 21 on the Tiguan 2 are configured to be LED ("43 - allgemeine LED") and work at different brightnesses (127 and 13). Why can't my LED dim under an LED Lasttyp?
Now, is it possible to have the bulb dimming using an LED Lasttyp (to avoid warnings)?
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Sept 15, 2017 0:27:16 GMT
Hey Don. Today I tried lowering Dimmwert EF and CD to 5 but the bulb still turned on completely. Then I tried to change Lasttyp from "34 - LED Bremsleuchten" to "43 - allgemeine LED" but the problem persisted. Later I changed the Lasttyp back to "13 - Bremsleuchten" and the brightness was right and matched the one of the other position lights. Of course, I got the warning, but at least it works. Having said that, the bulb is actually dimmable and works, but only with a halogen Lasttyp. Leuchte20 and 21 on the Tiguan 2 are configured to be LED ("43 - allgemeine LED") and work at different brightnesses (127 and 13). Why can't my LED dim under an LED Lasttyp? Now, is it possible to have the bulb dimming using an LED Lasttyp (to avoid warnings)? Yankarirg: Excellent - now we are getting somewhere!!!! If you have gotten the correct illumination by changing the lasttyp setting to 13 - Bremsleuchten - then the way to delete the warning message is to change: - Lampendefektbitposition
- Fehlerort mittleres Byte DTC-DFCC
on both sides of the car to the value 00. This stops the central electric module from fault monitoring- but only for the Leuchte-sets that you have selected. But as to why your new LEDs are behaving in this very strange manner - I have absolutely no idea! Don
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Post by yankarinrg on Sept 15, 2017 7:16:23 GMT
Don since now the LED bulb is considered halogen by the BCM and made to work like a halogen bulb, is it possible it will get damaged?
For example, with a dimming technique suited for halogens, etc, ...?
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Sept 15, 2017 13:18:05 GMT
Don since now the LED bulb is considered halogen by the BCM and made to work like a halogen bulb, is it possible it will get damaged? For example, with a dimming technique suited for halogens, etc, ...? yankarinrg: The short answer is I would not think so. If you look at the second post in this thread, I've posted a screenshot of the power signal that is applied to lamps from Leuchte programming. Fundamentally, the way the dimming function works is by what's known as Pulse-width-modulation (PWM), which is just a fancy name for varying the ON/OFF time in a square wave signal. For dimming, the BCM "chops-up" the 12volt battery source into ON and OFF times and PWM varies the relative ON/OFF times so that for full illumination there is lots of ON time and for no illumination there is lots of OFF times So - when you select an LED setting for the Lasttyp channel on a Leuchte-set, you enforce that the BCM uses digital control for the lamp - hence 127 different settings (decimal 127 = binary 1111111). If you select an incandescent setting for the Lasttyp channel, you initiate analogue control for the lamp (Dimmwert range 0-100). But in truth the human eye cannot distinguish between 127 x different values. I have found that there is no visible difference beyond a setting of 100 for most (all?) LEDs for the turn-signal function. The primary difference between an LED and incandescent setting in the lasttyp channel is the frequency of the square wave signal; for LED settings, the square wave frequency is 200 Hz and for incandescent settings it's 100 Hz. Other than this difference, the only other variation is the duty cycle for different dimmwert settings So- this is a long way of saying that I wouldn't expect that running the LED on an incandescent setting would alter the longevity of the lamp. Don
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Post by yankarinrg on Sept 15, 2017 16:33:48 GMT
Hello Don, I did the tweak on "Lampendefektbitposition" and "Fehlerort mittleres Byte DTC-DFCC" to "00" and the "check bulb" warning disappeared but since I switched from "34 - LED Bremsleuchten" to "13 - Bremsleuchten", got a "Front Assist not available" error on the MFD. Scanned with OBDeleven and the error, now, is "U112300 - Datenbus empfangener Fehlerwert statisch Date: 2017-09-15 14:31:10 Mileage: 17225 km Priorität: 6 Fehlerhäufigkeitszähler: 1 Verlernzähler: 55" What should I do? This LED is driving me crazy
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Sept 16, 2017 0:15:19 GMT
yankarinrg: You sure are having some very strange problems !!!! So if your front assist error goes away when (clear the error with OBD11) you restore the lamp monitoring channels (I can't believe that the two are connected)- then the only alternative is new LEDs -I guess
Don
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Post by yankarinrg on Sept 16, 2017 8:50:37 GMT
Don is it possible I messed something during coding? U112300 is "Databus error value received" OBDeleven vehicle history log
Date: 2017-09-15 14:33
VIN: TMBEB6NJXGZ186968 Car: Skoda Fabia Year: 2016 Body type: 5-dr hatchback Engine: CHYB 55 kW (75 HP) 1 l Mileage: 17225 KM
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte21BR RC8 Values: Dimming_EF_21: Old value: 0 New value: 18 Light_Function_E_21: Old value: nicht aktiv New value: Tagfahrlicht Fehlerort_mittleres_Byte_DTC-DFCC_21: Old value: 3a New value: 0 Lampendefektbit_Position_21: Old value: 19 New value: 0 Mileage: 17225 km Date: 2017-09-15 14:29
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte20BR LA70 Values: Lampendefektbit_Position_20: Old value: 9 New value: 0 Dimming_EF_20: Old value: 0 New value: 18 Light_Function_E_20: Old value: nicht aktiv New value: Tagfahrlicht Fehlerort_mittleres_Byte_DTC-DFCC_20: Old value: 39 New value: 0 Mileage: 17225 km Date: 2017-09-15 14:29
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte21BR RC8 Values: Dimming_AB_21: Old value: 127 New value: 100 Dimming_CD_21: Old value: 4 New value: 18 Type_Of_Load_21: Old value: allg.LEDmitOpenLoadDiagnoseohnePWM New value: Bremsleuchten Mileage: 17186 km Date: 2017-09-14 15:22
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte20BR LA70 Values: Dimming_AB_20: Old value: 127 New value: 100 Type_Of_Load_20: Old value: allg.LEDmitOpenLoadDiagnoseohnePWM New value: Bremsleuchten Mileage: 17186 km Date: 2017-09-14 15:22
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte20BR LA70 Values: Dimming_CD_20: Old value: 5 New value: 18 Mileage: 17186 km Date: 2017-09-14 15:22
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte20BR LA70 Values: Dimming_CD_20: Old value: 4 New value: 5 Mileage: 17186 km Date: 2017-09-14 15:21
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte21BR RC8 Values: Type_Of_Load_21: Old value: LED Bremsleuchten New value: allg.LEDmitOpenLoadDiagnoseohnePWM Mileage: 17186 km Date: 2017-09-14 15:17
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte20BR LA70 Values: Type_Of_Load_20: Old value: LED Bremsleuchten New value: allg.LEDmitOpenLoadDiagnoseohnePWM Mileage: 17186 km Date: 2017-09-14 15:17
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte21BR RC8 Values: Dimming_CD_21: Old value: 18 New value: 4 Mileage: 17186 km Date: 2017-09-14 15:13
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte20BR LA70 Values: Dimming_CD_20: Old value: 18 New value: 4 Mileage: 17186 km Date: 2017-09-14 15:12
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte21BR RC8 Values: Dimming_EF_21: Old value: 18 New value: 0 Light_Function_E_21: Old value: Tagfahrlicht New value: nicht aktiv Mileage: 17036 km Date: 2017-09-12 15:16
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte20BR LA70 Values: Dimming_EF_20: Old value: 18 New value: 0 Light_Function_E_20: Old value: Tagfahrlicht New value: nicht aktiv Mileage: 17036 km Date: 2017-09-12 15:16
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte25KZL HA60 Values: Light_Function_B_25: Old value: nicht aktiv New value: Tagfahrlicht Light_Function_A_25: Old value: Tagfahrlicht New value: Standlicht Mileage: 17011 km Date: 2017-09-11 14:25
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte24SL HRA69 Values: Light_Function_A_24: Old value: Tagfahrlicht New value: Standlicht Light_Function_C_24: Old value: nicht aktiv New value: Tagfahrlicht Dimming_CD_24: Old value: 0 New value: 127 Mileage: 17011 km Date: 2017-09-11 14:25
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte23SL HLC7 Values: Dimming_CD_23: Old value: 0 New value: 127 Light_Function_A_23: Old value: Tagfahrlicht New value: Standlicht Light_Function_C_23: Old value: nicht aktiv New value: Tagfahrlicht Mileage: 17011 km Date: 2017-09-11 14:24
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte21BR RC8 Values: Dimming_EF_21: Old value: 0 New value: 18 Light_Function_E_21: Old value: nicht aktiv New value: Tagfahrlicht Light_Function_C_21: Old value: Tagfahrlicht New value: Standlicht Mileage: 17011 km Date: 2017-09-11 14:23
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte20BR LA70 Values: Light_Function_C_20: Old value: Tagfahrlicht New value: Standlicht Dimming_EF_20: Old value: 0 New value: 18 Light_Function_E_20: Old value: nicht aktiv New value: Tagfahrlicht Mileage: 17011 km Date: 2017-09-11 14:23
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte25KZL HA60 Values: Light_Function_A_25: Old value: Standlicht New value: Tagfahrlicht Mileage: 17011 km Date: 2017-09-11 14:06
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte24SL HRA69 Values: Dimming_AB_24: Old value: 100 New value: 127 Type_Of_Load_24: Old value: 3* 5W New value: allg.LEDmitOpenLoadDiagnoseohnePWM Light_Function_A_24: Old value: Standlicht New value: Tagfahrlicht Mileage: 17011 km Date: 2017-09-11 14:06
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte23SL HLC7 Values: Dimming_AB_23: Old value: 100 New value: 127 Light_Function_A_23: Old value: Standlicht New value: Tagfahrlicht Type_Of_Load_23: Old value: 3* 5W New value: allg.LEDmitOpenLoadDiagnoseohnePWM Mileage: 17011 km Date: 2017-09-11 14:05
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte21BR RC8 Values: Light_Function_C_21: Old value: Standlicht New value: Tagfahrlicht Type_Of_Load_21: Old value: Bremsleuchten New value: LED Bremsleuchten Dimming_AB_21: Old value: 100 New value: 127 Mileage: 17011 km Date: 2017-09-11 14:05
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte20BR LA70 Values: Light_Function_C_20: Old value: Standlicht New value: Tagfahrlicht Dimming_AB_20: Old value: 100 New value: 127 Type_Of_Load_20: Old value: Bremsleuchten New value: LED Bremsleuchten Mileage: 17011 km Date: 2017-09-11 14:04
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte26NSL A65 Values: Type_Of_Load_26: Old value: allgemeineGluehlampe27W,auchH15-TFL New value: allg.LEDmitOpenLoadDiagnoseohnePWM Dimming_AB_26: Old value: 100 New value: 127 Mileage: 16762 km Date: 2017-09-08 15:45
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte19BLK HRC10 Values: Dimming_AB_19: Old value: 100 New value: 127 Type_Of_Load_19: Old value: Blinkleuchten New value: LEDBlinkleuchten Mileage: 16762 km Date: 2017-09-08 15:44
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte18BLK HLA71 Values: Dimming_AB_18: Old value: 100 New value: 127 Type_Of_Load_18: Old value: Blinkleuchten New value: LEDBlinkleuchten Mileage: 16762 km Date: 2017-09-08 15:44
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte1BLK VRB23 Values: Dimming_AB_1: Old value: 100 New value: 127 Mileage: 16485 km Date: 2017-09-04 15:44
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte 0 BLK VL B35 Values: Dimming_AB_0: Old value: 100 New value: 127 Mileage: 16485 km Date: 2017-09-04 15:44
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte30 INNENLICHT A68 Values: Type_Of_Load_30: Old value: LED Kleinleistung ohne Open Load Diagnose New value: z.B.LEDFußraumleuchten Mileage: 16485 km Date: 2017-09-04 15:44
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte 0 BLK VL B35 Values: Type_Of_Load_0: Old value: LED Blinkleuchten New value: LEDBlinkleuchten Mileage: 16485 km Date: 2017-09-04 15:38
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte1BLK VRB23 Values: Type_Of_Load_1: Old value: LED Blinkleuchten New value: LEDBlinkleuchten Mileage: 16485 km Date: 2017-09-04 15:38
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte1BLK VRB23 Values: Type_Of_Load_1: Old value: Blinkleuchten New value: LED Blinkleuchten Mileage: 16485 km Date: 2017-09-04 15:34
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte 0 BLK VL B35 Values: Type_Of_Load_0: Old value: Blinkleuchten New value: LED Blinkleuchten Mileage: 16485 km Date: 2017-09-04 15:34
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte7ABL RB5 Values: Light_Function_B_7: Old value: ComingHome LeavingHome New value: nicht aktiv Mileage: 15909 km Date: 2017-08-28 23:20
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte6ABL LB44 Values: Light_Function_B_6: Old value: ComingHome LeavingHome New value: nicht aktiv Mileage: 15909 km Date: 2017-08-28 23:20
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Komfortbeleuchtung Values: Coming-home Einschaltereignis: Old value: driver door New value: ignition Menueeinstellung Cominghome: Old value: 30 Sekunden New value: nicht aktiv Menuesteuerung Coming Home Werkseinstellung: Old value: aktiv New value: nicht aktiv Coming Home Verbaustatus: Old value: automatisch New value: nicht vorhanden Mileage: 15909 km Date: 2017-08-28 23:20
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte7ABL RB5 Values: Light_Function_B_7: Old value: nicht aktiv New value: ComingHome LeavingHome Mileage: 15909 km Date: 2017-08-28 23:17
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte6ABL LB44 Values: Light_Function_B_6: Old value: nicht aktiv New value: ComingHome LeavingHome Mileage: 15909 km Date: 2017-08-28 23:16
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte30 INNENLICHT A68 Values: Type_Of_Load_30: Old value: z.B.LEDFußraumleuchten New value: LED Kleinleistung ohne Open Load Diagnose Dimming_AB_30: Old value: 100 New value: 127 Mileage: 15909 km Date: 2017-08-28 23:12
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Komfortbeleuchtung Values: Coming-home Einschaltereignis: Old value: ignition New value: driver door Menueeinstellung Cominghome: Old value: nicht aktiv New value: 30 Sekunden Menuesteuerung Coming Home Werkseinstellung: Old value: nicht aktiv New value: aktiv Coming Home Verbaustatus: Old value: nicht vorhanden New value: automatisch Mileage: 15909 km Date: 2017-08-28 23:11
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte7ABL RB5 Values: Light_Function_B_7: Old value: ComingHome LeavingHome New value: nicht aktiv Mileage: 15893 km Date: 2017-08-28 15:46
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte6ABL LB44 Values: Light_Function_B_6: Old value: ComingHome LeavingHome New value: nicht aktiv Mileage: 15893 km Date: 2017-08-28 15:46
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Komfortbeleuchtung Values: Coming Home Verbaustatus: Old value: automatisch New value: nicht vorhanden Mileage: 15893 km Date: 2017-08-28 15:44
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Komfortbeleuchtung Values: Coming Home Verbaustatus: Old value: nicht vorhanden New value: automatisch Mileage: 15893 km Date: 2017-08-28 15:39
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte3SL VRB36 Values: Light_Function_A_3: Old value: Blinken rechts Hellphase New value: Tagfahrlicht Light_Function_F_3: Old value: nicht aktiv New value: Parklicht rechts Light_Function_E_3: Old value: nicht aktiv New value: Standlicht Light_Function_C_3: Old value: nicht aktiv New value: Blinken rechts aktiv Mileage: 15893 km Date: 2017-08-28 15:33
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte2SL VLB22 Values: Light_Function_E_2: Old value: nicht aktiv New value: Standlicht Light_Function_A_2: Old value: Blinken links Hellphase New value: Tagfahrlicht Light_Function_F_2: Old value: nicht aktiv New value: Parklicht links Light_Function_C_2: Old value: nicht aktiv New value: Blinken links aktiv Mileage: 15893 km Date: 2017-08-28 15:32
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte2SL VLB22 Values: Light_Function_A_2: Old value: nicht aktiv New value: Blinken links Hellphase Mileage: 15893 km Date: 2017-08-28 15:23
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte3SL VRB36 Values: Light_Function_A_3: Old value: nicht aktiv New value: Blinken rechts Hellphase Mileage: 15893 km Date: 2017-08-28 15:23
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte3SL VRB36 Values: Light_Function_G_3: Old value: Umfeldbeleuchtung New value: nicht aktiv Light_Function_E_3: Old value: Standlicht New value: nicht aktiv Light_Function_C_3: Old value: BlinkenrechtsRampe New value: nicht aktiv Light_Function_A_3: Old value: Tagfahrlicht New value: nicht aktiv Light_Function_F_3: Old value: Parklicht rechts New value: nicht aktiv Mileage: 15893 km Date: 2017-08-28 15:23
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte2SL VLB22 Values: Light_Function_E_2: Old value: Standlicht New value: nicht aktiv Light_Function_C_2: Old value: BlinkenlinksRampe New value: nicht aktiv Light_Function_A_2: Old value: Tagfahrlicht New value: nicht aktiv Light_Function_F_2: Old value: Parklicht links New value: nicht aktiv Light_Function_G_2: Old value: Umfeldbeleuchtung New value: nicht aktiv Mileage: 15893 km Date: 2017-08-28 15:22
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte5 TFL RB6 Values: Dimming_EF_5: Old value: 127 New value: 0 Light_Function_E_5: Old value: Umfeldbeleuchtung New value: nicht aktiv Mileage: 15893 km Date: 2017-08-28 15:20
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte4TFL LB43 Values: Light_Function_E_4: Old value: Umfeldbeleuchtung New value: nicht aktiv Dimming_EF_4: Old value: 127 New value: 0 Mileage: 15893 km Date: 2017-08-28 15:20
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte30 INNENLICHT A68 Values: Type_Of_Load_30: Old value: allgemeineGluehlampe12W New value: z.B.LEDFußraumleuchten Mileage: 15893 km Date: 2017-08-28 15:18
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte25KZL HA60 Values: Light_Function_B_25: Old value: Umfeldbeleuchtung New value: nicht aktiv Mileage: 15893 km Date: 2017-08-28 15:17
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte20BR LA70 Values: Dimming_EF_20: Old value: 18 New value: 0 Light_Function_E_20: Old value: Umfeldbeleuchtung New value: nicht aktiv Mileage: 15893 km Date: 2017-08-28 15:16
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte21BR RC8 Values: Light_Function_E_21: Old value: Umfeldbeleuchtung New value: nicht aktiv Dimming_EF_21: Old value: 18 New value: 0 Mileage: 15893 km Date: 2017-08-28 15:15
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte23SL HLC7 Values: Light_Function_C_23: Old value: Umfeldbeleuchtung New value: nicht aktiv Dimming_CD_23: Old value: 100 New value: 0 Mileage: 15893 km Date: 2017-08-28 15:14
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte24SL HRA69 Values: Dimming_CD_24: Old value: 100 New value: 0 Light_Function_C_24: Old value: Umfeldbeleuchtung New value: nicht aktiv Mileage: 15893 km Date: 2017-08-28 15:13
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte30 INNENLICHT A68 Values: Dimming_CD_30: Old value: 100 New value: 0 Light_Function_C_30: Old value: Tagfahrlicht New value: nicht aktiv Mileage: 15835 km Date: 2017-08-27 18:47
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte30 INNENLICHT A68 Values: Light_Function_C_30: Old value: nicht aktiv New value: Tagfahrlicht Dimming_CD_30: Old value: 0 New value: 100 Mileage: 15779 km Date: 2017-08-27 16:57
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte25KZL HA60 Values: Dimming_AB_25: Old value: 100 New value: 127 Type_Of_Load_25: Old value: 2* 5W New value: allg.LEDmitOpenLoadDiagnoseohnePWM Mileage: 14346 km Date: 2017-08-08 04:31
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 5F Informationselektronik Name: Car_Function_Adaptations_Gen2 Values: menu_display_weariness_recognition: Old value: aktiviert New value: nicht aktiviert Mileage: 13904 km Date: 2017-08-07 09:20
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 5F Informationselektronik Name: Car_Function_List_BAP_Gen2 Values: weariness_rcognition_0x22: Old value: aktiviert New value: nicht aktiviert Mileage: 13904 km Date: 2017-08-07 09:20
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 5F Informationselektronik Name: Car_Function_List_BAP_Gen2 Values: weariness_rcognition_0x22_msg_bus: Old value: Datenbus Infotainment New value: Datenbus Komfort Mileage: 13897 km Date: 2017-08-06 16:50
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--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 5F Informationselektronik Name: Car_Function_Adaptations_Gen2 Values: menu_display_weariness_recognition: Old value: nicht aktiviert New value: aktiviert Mileage: 13765 km Date: 2017-08-05 17:03
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 5F Informationselektronik Name: Car_Function_List_BAP_Gen2 Values: weariness_rcognition_0x22_msg_bus: Old value: Datenbus Komfort New value: Datenbus Infotainment weariness_rcognition_0x22: Old value: nicht aktiviert New value: aktiviert Mileage: 13765 km Date: 2017-08-05 17:02
--------------------------------------------------------------- App Name: Windows function from remote Old value: ON New value: OFF Mileage: 13765 km Date: 2017-08-05 16:44
--------------------------------------------------------------- App Name: Windows function from remote Old value: OFF New value: ON Mileage: 13765 km Date: 2017-08-05 16:38
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 5F Informationselektronik Name: Car_Function_List_BAP_Gen2 Values: weariness_rcognition_0x22: Old value: aktiviert New value: nicht aktiviert Mileage: 13765 km Date: 2017-08-05 16:36
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 5F Informationselektronik Name: Car_Function_Adaptations_Gen2 Values: menu_display_weariness_recognition: Old value: aktiviert New value: nicht aktiviert Mileage: 13765 km Date: 2017-08-05 16:36
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 5F Informationselektronik Name: Car_Function_List_BAP_Gen2 Values: weariness_rcognition_0x22: Old value: nicht aktiviert New value: aktiviert Mileage: 13765 km Date: 2017-08-05 16:26
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 5F Informationselektronik Name: Car_Function_Adaptations_Gen2 Values: menu_display_weariness_recognition: Old value: nicht aktiviert New value: aktiviert Mileage: 13765 km Date: 2017-08-05 16:25
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Rückmeldungssignale Values: Akustische Rueckmeldung entriegeln: Old value: aktiv New value: nicht aktiv Menuesteuerung akustische Rueckmeldung: Old value: aktiv New value: nicht aktiv Akustische Rueckmeldung verriegeln: Old value: aktiv New value: nicht aktiv Akustische Rueckmeldung Signalhorn: Old value: aktiv New value: nicht aktiv Dauer der Akustischen Rueckmeldung vom Einfachhorn: Old value: kurz New value: normal Mileage: 13765 km Date: 2017-08-05 16:22
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Rückmeldungssignale Values: Akustische Rueckmeldung Signalhorn: Old value: nicht aktiv New value: aktiv Akustische Rueckmeldung global: Old value: aktiv New value: nicht aktiv Mileage: 13765 km Date: 2017-08-05 16:14
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Rückmeldungssignale Values: Akustische Rueckmeldung verriegeln: Old value: nicht aktiv New value: aktiv Dauer der Akustischen Rueckmeldung vom Einfachhorn: Old value: normal New value: kurz Akustische Rueckmeldung global: Old value: nicht aktiv New value: aktiv Menuesteuerung akustische Rueckmeldung: Old value: nicht aktiv New value: aktiv Akustische Rueckmeldung entriegeln: Old value: nicht aktiv New value: aktiv Mileage: 13765 km Date: 2017-08-05 16:04
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte3SL VRB36 Values: Light_Function_C_3: Old value: Blinken rechts aktiv New value: BlinkenrechtsRampe Mileage: 9445 km Date: 2017-06-03 11:09
--------------------------------------------------------------- Long coding Control unit: 5F Informationselektronik Old value: 03620000BE0000001111000400080A002F0100C40120010002 New value: 03620000BE0000001111000400080A002F0101C40120010002 Mileage: 8978 km Date: 2017-05-28 21:26
--------------------------------------------------------------- Long coding Control unit: 5F Informationselektronik Old value: 03620000BE0000001111000400080A002F0100C40120010002 New value: 03620000BE0000001111000400080A002F0101C40120010002 Mileage: 8978 km Date: 2017-05-28 21:22
--------------------------------------------------------------- Long coding Control unit: 5F Informationselektronik Old value: 03620000BE0000001111000400080A002F0100C40120010002 New value: 03620000BE0000001111000400080A002F0101C40120010002 Mileage: 8978 km Date: 2017-05-28 21:22
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte25KZL HA60 Values: Light_Function_B_25: Old value: nicht aktiv New value: Umfeldbeleuchtung Mileage: 5432 km Date: 2017-02-25 21:38
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte24SL HRA69 Values: Dimming_CD_24: Old value: 0 New value: 100 Light_Function_C_24: Old value: nicht aktiv New value: Umfeldbeleuchtung Mileage: 5432 km Date: 2017-02-25 21:38
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte23SL HLC7 Values: Light_Function_C_23: Old value: nicht aktiv New value: Umfeldbeleuchtung Dimming_CD_23: Old value: 0 New value: 100 Mileage: 5432 km Date: 2017-02-25 21:38
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte21BR RC8 Values: Dimming_EF_21: Old value: 0 New value: 18 Light_Function_E_21: Old value: nicht aktiv New value: Umfeldbeleuchtung Mileage: 5432 km Date: 2017-02-25 21:38
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte20BR LA70 Values: Light_Function_E_20: Old value: nicht aktiv New value: Umfeldbeleuchtung Dimming_EF_20: Old value: 0 New value: 18 Mileage: 5432 km Date: 2017-02-25 21:38
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte5 TFL RB6 Values: Light_Function_E_5: Old value: nicht aktiv New value: Umfeldbeleuchtung Dimming_EF_5: Old value: 0 New value: 127 Mileage: 5432 km Date: 2017-02-25 21:38
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte4TFL LB43 Values: Light_Function_E_4: Old value: nicht aktiv New value: Umfeldbeleuchtung Dimming_EF_4: Old value: 0 New value: 127 Mileage: 5432 km Date: 2017-02-25 21:38
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte3SL VRB36 Values: Dimming_GH_3: Old value: 0 New value: 10 Light_Function_G_3: Old value: nicht aktiv New value: Umfeldbeleuchtung Mileage: 5432 km Date: 2017-02-25 21:38
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte2SL VLB22 Values: Light_Function_G_2: Old value: nicht aktiv New value: Umfeldbeleuchtung Dimming_GH_2: Old value: 0 New value: 10 Mileage: 5432 km Date: 2017-02-25 21:38
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte3SL VRB36 Values: Light_Function_G_3: Old value: Umfeldbeleuchtung New value: nicht aktiv Dimming_GH_3: Old value: 100 New value: 0 Mileage: 5251 km Date: 2017-02-17 23:06
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte2SL VLB22 Values: Light_Function_G_2: Old value: Umfeldbeleuchtung New value: nicht aktiv Dimming_GH_2: Old value: 100 New value: 0 Mileage: 5251 km Date: 2017-02-17 23:06
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte3SL VRB36 Values: Dimming_GH_3: Old value: 0 New value: 100 Light_Function_G_3: Old value: nicht aktiv New value: Umfeldbeleuchtung Mileage: 5251 km Date: 2017-02-17 22:56
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte2SL VLB22 Values: Dimming_GH_2: Old value: 0 New value: 100 Light_Function_G_2: Old value: nicht aktiv New value: Umfeldbeleuchtung Mileage: 5251 km Date: 2017-02-17 22:55
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte7ABL RB5 Values: Light_Function_C_7: Old value: ComingHome LeavingHome New value: nicht aktiv Dimming_Direction_CD_7: Old value: minimize New value: maximize Mileage: 5251 km Date: 2017-02-17 22:54
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte6ABL LB44 Values: Dimming_Direction_CD_6: Old value: minimize New value: maximize Light_Function_C_6: Old value: ComingHome LeavingHome New value: nicht aktiv Mileage: 5251 km Date: 2017-02-17 22:54
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte7ABL RB5 Values: Light_Function_C_7: Old value: nicht aktiv New value: ComingHome LeavingHome Dimming_Direction_CD_7: Old value: maximize New value: minimize Mileage: 5244 km Date: 2017-02-17 14:27
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte6ABL LB44 Values: Light_Function_C_6: Old value: nicht aktiv New value: ComingHome LeavingHome Dimming_Direction_CD_6: Old value: maximize New value: minimize Mileage: 5244 km Date: 2017-02-17 14:27
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte13NL RB3 Values: Light_Function_B_13: Old value: nicht aktiv New value: Abbiegelicht rechts Mileage: 5134 km Date: 2017-02-11 19:53
--------------------------------------------------------------- Adaptation Control unit: 09 Elektronische Zentralelektrik Name: Leuchte12NL LB40 Values: Light_Function_B_12: Old value: nicht aktiv New value: Abbiegelicht links Mileage: 5134 km Date: 2017-02-11 19:53
--------------------------------------------------------------- Long coding Control unit: 03 Bremsenelektronik Old value: 41F5247D492A33C80916106B0051822492CC9008000DCAF98F00 New value: 41F5247D492A33C80916106B0051822492CC9008000DCBF98F00 Mileage: 5109 km Date: 2017-02-11 14:50
--------------------------------------------------------------- Long coding Control unit: 03 Bremsenelektronik Old value: 41F5247D492A33C80916106B0051822492CC9008000DCAF98F00 New value: 41F5247D492A33C80916106B0051822492CC9008000DCBF98F00 Mileage: 5109 km Date: 2017-02-11 14:50
--------------------------------------------------------------- Long coding Control unit: 17 Schalttafeleinsatz Old value: 072501002180000801882A011000000000000000 New value: 072D01002180000801883A011000000000000000 Mileage: 5062 km Date: 2017-02-09 21:35
--------------------------------------------------------------- Long coding Control unit: 17 Schalttafeleinsatz Old value: 072501002180000801882A011000000000000000 New value: 072D01002180000801883A011000000000000000 Mileage: 5062 km Date: 2017-02-09 21:35
--------------------------------------------------------------- Long coding Control unit: 17 Schalttafeleinsatz Old value: 072401002180000801882A011000000000000000 New value: 072501002180000801882A011000000000000000 Mileage: 5062 km Date: 2017-02-09 21:33
--------------------------------------------------------------- Long coding Control unit: 17 Schalttafeleinsatz Old value: 072401002180000801882A011000000000000000 New value: 072501002180000801882A011000000000000000 Mileage: 5059 km Date: 2017-02-09 21:02
--------------------------------------------------------------- Long coding Control unit: 17 Schalttafeleinsatz Old value: 072401002180000801882A011000000000000000 New value: 072501002180000801882A011000000000000000 Mileage: 5059 km Date: 2017-02-09 21:02
Complete error report: OBDeleven data log
Date: 2017-09-15 14:33
VIN: TMBEB6NJXGZ186968 Car: Skoda Fabia Year: 2016 Body type: 5-dr hatchback Engine: CHYB 55 kW (75 HP) 1 l Mileage: 17225 KM
--------------------------------------------------------------- 13 Distanzregelung
System description: ACC Bosch MQB Software number: 5Q0907572F Software version: 0400 Hardware number: 5Q0907572F Hardware version: H05 Serial number: 06031604390700 ODX name: EV_ACCMRRBoschVW372 ODX version: 001016 Long coding: 00000000FE0339
Trouble codes: U112300 - Datenbus empfangener Fehlerwert statisch Date: 2017-09-15 14:31:10 Mileage: 17225 km Priorität: 6 Fehlerhäufigkeitszähler: 1 Verlernzähler: 55
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Sept 17, 2017 12:07:41 GMT
^^^^^ post up the full error message from you scan report please
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