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Post by sarah1331 on Feb 14, 2020 21:28:26 GMT
Is there the option to do a full backup
I know how to do it module by module I just read that’s there a full backup option somewhere
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2020 21:50:26 GMT
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Post by sarah1331 on Feb 14, 2020 22:17:30 GMT
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Feb 20, 2020 21:07:15 GMT
Kudos to cupra280 for his excellent write-up (it's way more than a story about "back-up").
IMHO it's a very good user manual and it should receive greater attention in the forum for those newbies trying to understand how the software works.
Well done indeed!
Don
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2020 22:07:25 GMT
Thank you for the kind words, But true to life every day is a school day and today I read an article that said you should put in the security code (which i have always ignored) and dependent on which code you use its possible to get more data in the extract.
more testing to follow
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Feb 21, 2020 20:32:41 GMT
Thank you for the kind words, But true to life every day is a school day and today I read an article that said you should put in the security code (which i have always ignored) and dependent on which code you use its possible to get more data in the extract. more testing to follow ^^^^ yes, it depends on which module is being selected - but adding a security code before opening the adaptation channel database in the module can allow user access different channels. Security codes have different uses in different modules.
The classic example of this is the hex03 module on MQB platform vehicles (which OBD11 reports as Brakes 1 and which VCDS reports as ABS). This module has a plethora of security codes for an individual module (i.e. 25004, 11966, 15081, 18573, 20103, 24435, 24990, 25004, 25757, 28183, 31857, 37202, 40168, 44595, 40304, 10505, 19249, 10815). Some of these security codes are used for accessing specific channels, while others are used for accessing basic setting processes, and others for procedures like disc drying.
Don
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2020 21:55:13 GMT
Thanks Don as always,
I will do a test, whilst I understand the different codes have different purposes in the application/Usage world the bit I have to confirm is if I put the code in during a backup will I get different data output.
And then how will that be different to the full backup where you have no ability to enter a code.
The joy of this tool is it keep giving us stuff to do and learn.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2020 17:16:38 GMT
Thank you for the kind words, But true to life every day is a school day and today I read an article that said you should put in the security code (which i have always ignored) and dependent on which code you use its possible to get more data in the extract. more testing to follow ^^^^ yes, it depends on which module is being selected - but adding a security code before opening the adaptation channel database in the module can allow user access different channels. Security codes have different uses in different modules.
The classic example of this is the hex03 module on MQB platform vehicles (which OBD11 reports as Brakes 1 and which VCDS reports as ABS). This module has a plethora of security codes for an individual module (i.e. 25004, 11966, 15081, 18573, 20103, 24435, 24990, 25004, 25757, 28183, 31857, 37202, 40168, 44595, 40304, 10505, 19249, 10815). Some of these security codes are used for accessing specific channels, while others are used for accessing basic setting processes, and others for procedures like disc drying.
Don
Well Don, I have done my check and was a little surprised by the outcome.
I was expecting them all to be the same, as this is just a extract of what is on the control unit (my original thought)
So on the Brake setup I ran 13 single backups of the Brakes 1 (ABS)
Security Code 10715 & 31857 had the following attributes that the others did not
Monitoring of functional lights: Indicator light in the button for electromech. parking brake: Indicator light in AUTO HOLD button:
However all the other control units had the following but these two did not
AUTO HOLD slippage recognition: AUTO HOLD slippage recognition:
Security code 25004 had
XCP calibration protocol: XCP calibration protocol: Plausibility check: Reverse gear: Neutral gear sensor: which non of the others did but they all had
Expanded electronic differential lock: Electronic Differential Lock:
which 25004 did not
Update, i also noticed when I did an offline look at the control unit all of the above items are shown.
If you are interested i have put the rec up on my google drive
I also compared my full backup to these files and it was a miss match of bits of both but not all, Also by default the control unit extract has Long Coding, Adaptation, Advanced identification and Live data, The full backup file does not contain as much info so not sure what its not picking up.
Looking at the app screen it shows total number of Advanced identification and Live data
Most have 32 & 51 items 40304 has 32 and 49 37202 has 32 and 38 20103 has 32 and 39
25004 has 32 and 49
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Post by dv52 (Australia) on Feb 25, 2020 2:44:01 GMT
^^^hmm.......... interesting work - I've downloaded your file which I will peruse when I get the timr. Not completely sure what it all means, but if I get ant insights you will be the second to know!! Don
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2020 10:28:51 GMT
Thanks, any insight greatly appreciated.
Its a simple rec, First column is the Full Backup extract for Control Unit 03, All the olther Columns are labled in the backup name with the Security code that I used for the extract.
The Rows in Yellow simple show the different output between the various security codes.
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