karlm
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Post by karlm on Aug 2, 2023 7:56:14 GMT
What kind of kit did you install? Would you please give us some more details? Thank‘s You need to change the steering wheel. Ya i have ID4 cross pure pluse and i solved the issue by using a kit installing inside the steering wheel and changing the settings of A5 and it’s working without handling of the steering wheel
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Post by salah7779 on Aug 3, 2023 8:14:33 GMT
Just found this amazing | Hands off module permanent off-hand module KLR For ID3 ID4 ID5 ID6- Customized Link a.aliexpress.com/_mLVak46You have to purchase this kit and install in your VW id4 and do some modifications by Using OBD 11 in line assist
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gdn21
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Post by gdn21 on Aug 3, 2023 9:49:55 GMT
Do you have the coding for this module to be functionnal , Thx
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Post by icke1963 on Aug 4, 2023 8:04:16 GMT
I have the same problem. Saw a video of an ID 3 driving on the highway in China. With active Travelassist. Without him getting the message to touch the steering wheel.
Can you encode that?
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Post by salah7779 on Aug 4, 2023 11:53:23 GMT
I have the same problem. Saw a video of an ID 3 driving on the highway in China. With active Travelassist. Without him getting the message to touch the steering wheel. Can you encode that? What you have to do is only activite the (Klr=coded) and same steps for ID 4 pure + in above for Travel assist All the best for all 👍🏻
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Post by salah7779 on Aug 4, 2023 11:54:32 GMT
Do you have the coding for this module to be functionnal , Thx What you have to do is only activite the (Klr=coded) and same steps for ID 4 pure + in above for Travel assist All the best for all 👍🏻
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Post by fisherboy52 on Aug 17, 2023 18:06:49 GMT
hi,
I tried to coding that in my ID4 pro business ( with acc and lane assist), my code is accepting by the system, but i haven't the button on the wheel.
I modified the 6,7,8 bit in 01,10,E4.
All are 00 08 30 6A 15 01 10 E4 07 24 20 00 etc...
i'm in 3.0 software, have you got an idea to resolve that ?
Thx,
ps: je suis français si y a un français qui traine là dessus
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gdn21
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Post by gdn21 on Aug 25, 2023 9:50:17 GMT
@ Salah7779 OK but you need a Capacitive steering wheel or a standard ? Did you tried it ?
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Post by salah7779 on Aug 25, 2023 23:47:31 GMT
For VW ID4 with capactitive steering no need to do any change just pulg and play ..but for ID4 with standard steering wheel you need to adjust the coding.
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Post by salah7779 on Aug 25, 2023 23:56:32 GMT
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laurg
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Post by laurg on Aug 31, 2023 17:07:05 GMT
You have to remove the steering wheel in order to mount the part? It is not enough to remove the buttons? Can you help us with a tutorial?
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robjo
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Post by robjo on Aug 31, 2023 20:01:16 GMT
Yeah a tutorial would help out the community a lot!
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Post by zuperlederhosen on Sept 1, 2023 11:20:04 GMT
Hi! Is the module hard to install? Could you write a short guide? 🫣 What coding is needed, could you possible explain it like I’m a 5 year old? 😊 I installed the part for more than 10 vehicles and both type :pro and the pure+ ..only the change will be in Pure+ as mentioned above !
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robjo
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Post by robjo on Sept 7, 2023 4:29:24 GMT
I installed the part for more than 10 vehicles and both type :pro and the pure+ ..only the change will be in Pure+ as mentioned above ! Are you able to provide info on how to actually do this?
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Post by salah7779 on Sept 8, 2023 8:22:46 GMT
I will give you samll tutorial pic and ensure to open the hood and remove Horon fuse from the fuse box and keep the hood open until you finish your work .. 1-remove the upper and lower cover : 2- from the back of the steering wheel you have to make small hole as per the below pic by using Allen key star(try to feel the spring inside): 3- you have 2 holes feel the spring and push as below pic: 4- remove both harness: 5- slowly remove the switches: 6- install the kit and retain everything as it is:
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Post by salah7779 on Sept 10, 2023 20:15:45 GMT
Watch the below video FMI :
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Post by generationgav on Sept 11, 2023 15:08:27 GMT
So it doesn't look like the actual steering wheel needs removing? What is the reason for removing both sets of buttons? It looks like the connector just goes to one set. Does park assist still work when this part is fitted? As I'm kind of expecting it would say to remove your hands even when they're not removed.
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robjo
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Post by robjo on Sept 11, 2023 19:31:27 GMT
Watch the below video FMI : First off, Salah7779 - thanks for the guide! Very much appreciated. I will order this kit. Although it seems a little scary with this small unit inside the wheel, if it can be trusted and won't break the car with errors. Are you able to make it a bit more clear how to actually code it in OBD11 after it's been installed?
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robjo
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Post by robjo on Sept 11, 2023 19:33:11 GMT
So it doesn't look like the actual steering wheel needs removing? What is the reason for removing both sets of buttons? It looks like the connector just goes to one set. Does park assist still work when this part is fitted? As I'm kind of expecting it would say to remove your hands even when they're not removed. From what I can tell of the pictures, the buttons are removed as a "set", as in the whole piece around the outside of the airbag comes off as one whole piece, and then this little kit is installed in the connector on the back. The park assist function, as far as I know, only wants you to release the brake and just informs you to remove your hands. It doesn't check if you are hands on or not.
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Post by generationgav on Sept 12, 2023 8:56:22 GMT
First off, Salah7779 - thanks for the guide! Very much appreciated. I will order this kit. Although it seems a little scary with this small unit inside the wheel, if it can be trusted and won't break the car with errors. Are you able to make it a bit more clear how to actually code it in OBD11 after it's been installed?
If you can keep us updated on how it goes, I'm tempted to order one but not quite sure about doing the stuff yet. I've also got another panel to replace on my car first. If the unit went faulty then it would stop a few things, including travel assist working, but it should be very easy to disable again. Do you have Travel assist enabled already? If so then it's pretty easy to enable touch steering wheel, I'll dig out the settings for you.
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Post by salah7779 on Sept 12, 2023 9:12:40 GMT
Watch the below video FMI : First off, Salah7779 - thanks for the guide! Very much appreciated. I will order this kit. Although it seems a little scary with this small unit inside the wheel, if it can be trusted and won't break the car with errors. Are you able to make it a bit more clear how to actually code it in OBD11 after it's been installed? If you have VW ID. Pro : just plug and play ( clear the faults by nurmal OBD11 and switch off-on the vehicle) If you have VW ID. Pure or pure + : you must do coding and its very easy Please note : keep everything connect, only remove the original harness of the same kit harness and keep the remaining harness connected.
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Post by salah7779 on Sept 12, 2023 9:29:08 GMT
streamable.com/cj9nfyAll functions will remain the same..the kit will work if you activate the feature of the line assist as per above video. (This is vw id4 pure+)
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robjo
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Post by robjo on Sept 12, 2023 19:37:55 GMT
First off, Salah7779 - thanks for the guide! Very much appreciated. I will order this kit. Although it seems a little scary with this small unit inside the wheel, if it can be trusted and won't break the car with errors. Are you able to make it a bit more clear how to actually code it in OBD11 after it's been installed? If you have VW ID. Pro : just plug and play ( clear the faults by nurmal OBD11 and switch off-on the vehicle) If you have VW ID. Pure or pure + : you must do coding and its very easy Please note : keep everything connect, only remove the original harness of the same kit harness and keep the remaining harness connected. streamable.com/cj9nfyAll functions will remain the same..the kit will work if you activate the feature of the line assist as per above video. (This is vw id4 pure+) Thank you. I have the ID.4 Pro Performance and I have already activated the Travel Assist successfully and use it every day (with the annoying hard moving of steering wheel every 10-15 seconds). How do you mean "only remove the original harness of the same kit harness and keep the remaining harness connected"? From what I can tell from the photos and your instructions is the following: 1. Remove upper and lower casing of the steering wheel (is this screwed in from underneath with something or does it just pry off with a plastic tool?) 2. Turn the steering wheel and use a tool (like your long T27) to push on the spring to release one side of the airbag. 3. Turn the steering wheel to the other side and use the same tool to push the spring on the other side to completely pull out the airbag and disonnect all connectors for the airbag. 4. Remove the whole switch panel. I guess the whole silver thing comes off as one whole unit? Not the left and right side separately but instead everything as one piece. Does this screw in or do you pry it off with a tool? 5. Connect the KLR-module to the "switch panel" and the re-install everything in reverse order. See image below. This is what I mean with "Switch panel".
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robjo
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Post by robjo on Sept 12, 2023 19:41:40 GMT
First off, Salah7779 - thanks for the guide! Very much appreciated. I will order this kit. Although it seems a little scary with this small unit inside the wheel, if it can be trusted and won't break the car with errors. Are you able to make it a bit more clear how to actually code it in OBD11 after it's been installed?
If you can keep us updated on how it goes, I'm tempted to order one but not quite sure about doing the stuff yet. I've also got another panel to replace on my car first. If the unit went faulty then it would stop a few things, including travel assist working, but it should be very easy to disable again. Do you have Travel assist enabled already? If so then it's pretty easy to enable touch steering wheel, I'll dig out the settings for you. I just ordered the kit from Aliexpress but won't arrive until mid-October. Yes, I have enabled Travel Assist as per instructions in another thread on here but I don't have a capacitive steering wheel... When checking the live data that should show if the steering wheel is lightly touched, heavily touched etc I have zero response and when enabling the KLR I get error messages and it kills both ACC and Travel Assist until I remove the settings, clear the codes and restart the car...
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Post by salah7779 on Sept 12, 2023 22:04:04 GMT
If you can keep us updated on how it goes, I'm tempted to order one but not quite sure about doing the stuff yet. I've also got another panel to replace on my car first. If the unit went faulty then it would stop a few things, including travel assist working, but it should be very easy to disable again. Do you have Travel assist enabled already? If so then it's pretty easy to enable touch steering wheel, I'll dig out the settings for you. I just ordered the kit from Aliexpress but won't arrive until mid-October. Yes, I have enabled Travel Assist as per instructions in another thread on here but I don't have a capacitive steering wheel... When checking the live data that should show if the steering wheel is lightly touched, heavily touched etc I have zero response and when enabling the KLR I get error messages and it kills both ACC and Travel Assist until I remove the settings, clear the codes and restart the car... -Enable KLR after installing of the kit and it will work with you ✅ -I experienced Chinese ID. Pro and pure+ (pro you have all features activated so KLR will be coded and active and other features that’s why don’t remove any other harnesses , however in pure + it’s empty from inside 😅so you just install the kit and active KLR and enjoy! 😁
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Post by generationgav on Sept 13, 2023 8:41:16 GMT
Thank you. I have the ID.4 Pro Performance and I have already activated the Travel Assist successfully and use it every day (with the annoying hard moving of steering wheel every 10-15 seconds). How do you mean "only remove the original harness of the same kit harness and keep the remaining harness connected"? From what I can tell from the photos and your instructions is the following: 1. Remove upper and lower casing of the steering wheel (is this screwed in from underneath with something or does it just pry off with a plastic tool?) 2. Turn the steering wheel and use a tool (like your long T27) to push on the spring to release one side of the airbag. 3. Turn the steering wheel to the other side and use the same tool to push the spring on the other side to completely pull out the airbag and disonnect all connectors for the airbag. 4. Remove the whole switch panel. I guess the whole silver thing comes off as one whole unit? Not the left and right side separately but instead everything as one piece. Does this screw in or do you pry it off with a tool? 5. Connect the KLR-module to the "switch panel" and the re-install everything in reverse order. See image below. This is what I mean with "Switch panel". If you can keep us updated on how it goes, I'm tempted to order one but not quite sure about doing the stuff yet. I've also got another panel to replace on my car first. If the unit went faulty then it would stop a few things, including travel assist working, but it should be very easy to disable again. Do you have Travel assist enabled already? If so then it's pretty easy to enable touch steering wheel, I'll dig out the settings for you. I just ordered the kit from Aliexpress but won't arrive until mid-October. Yes, I have enabled Travel Assist as per instructions in another thread on here but I don't have a capacitive steering wheel... When checking the live data that should show if the steering wheel is lightly touched, heavily touched etc I have zero response and when enabling the KLR I get error messages and it kills both ACC and Travel Assist until I remove the settings, clear the codes and restart the car... So it looks like you have everything in order. I'm happy to wait for the device as I've not got a lot of time at the moment anyway. I've been doing a bit of research. Officially the airbag (front of steering wheel) can be removed without removing the steering wheel casing. It might be easier to do it without the casing but it can be done. You are right, the buttons are one whole unit, there's an image in the ID3 forum here of the casing and where the clips are which is handy. All you need to do is to enable KLR once the unit is fitted. The error is because you don't have a hands on device steering wheel, this unit will make the car think you do have one. You don't have auto parking on the 1st Edition do you? As I'm definitely most interested if that gets disabled I think that would be a show stopper for me. One thing I'm not sure of, maybe salah7779 can help, where the little box goes inside the steering wheel? Just wondering where there's actually room for it
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Post by salah7779 on Sept 13, 2023 9:04:53 GMT
I will share some photos where you can keep the kit by using Tape Double-Sided This is for pure+ and for the pro its the same above the original unit
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robjo
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Post by robjo on Sept 13, 2023 18:16:04 GMT
Great! Where exactly is the kit plugged in? is it behind the switches on the left side of the wheel where the Travel Assist-button is located? So then it will just be plugged in, reinstall everything, pop the hood, enable KLR and hope it works. generationgav : can you link the ID.3 picture if you can find it? The picture I posted was just a generic one found on Google. I have a regular nordic (not 1st Edition) Pro Performance from December 2022 (with heatpump, heated seats, heated steering wheel etc). I have the autopark available on my car as well so I can test it when I have installed the unit some time in October. It's quite a scary "surgery" to perform on the car since I drive it daily to and from work every day...
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Post by generationgav on Sept 14, 2023 16:08:20 GMT
Here you go - now actually these are from a passat, but it's the same steering wheel, this is part of a guide to put your ID.4 buttons into that steering wheel. Looking forward to knowing how you get on!
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Post by robjo on Sept 22, 2023 14:21:09 GMT
A little update to those looking into doing this. I am still waiting for the unit to arrive so I still have no idea if it's going to work or not, however today I tested removing the airbag.
First off, the way to remove the wheel on my car (European ID.4 without capacitive sensors delivered from Germany) differs from Salah7779's pictures. In my car, there's a metal "rod" surrounding the airbag that needs to be pushed downwards to release it. Basically the same though, more or less... Also the cover on top of the wheel doesn't need to come off. Just be sure to cover the driving screen with a towel or something.
The horn fuse definately needs to be removed, otherwise it goes off when the airbag is released on one side. The horn fuse on my car is located under the hood, in spot F9 (15 amp blue fuse). When the airbag is removed, it's an easy job to release the two connectors and then just to the airbag to the side.
After that, it's just a matter of prying the plastic part off (the one surrounding the buttons) in the same way as marked on generationgav's images. After that, I didn't go any further. I put everything back together to wait for the actual unit to arrive as to not accidentally damage anything... Anyway, more updates when the unit has arrived.
For reference, my car WITHOUT capacitive sensors has the following item number: 10A 419 089 R YPG 03S (manfactured nov 18 2022).
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